Comments on: Guns In the Parking Lot? You Gotta Be Kidding! http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/2009/10/07/guns-in-the-parking-lot-you-gotta-be-kidding/ Our business is to keep your employees engaged in your business Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:23:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bernie Dyme http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/2009/10/07/guns-in-the-parking-lot-you-gotta-be-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Bernie Dyme Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:39:50 +0000 http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/?p=593#comment-176 Again, I think what is important is to try and understand the motivation of the framers of the constitution. My belief is that when they spoke of the right to bear arms, it related to militias or governmental entities whose purpose was to protect the common man. Now you do raise two interesting issues however. First let's deal with the right of the common man to protect himself. Taking into consideration my opening statement, then if guns didn't exist, we would be able to put everyone on a more equal footing, not to mention perhaps we would have to come up with more creative and rational ways to settle disputes and arguments. Number two, statistics show that in countries where there is lower gun ownership, there are far fewer homicides. Again, I think what is important is to try and understand the motivation of the framers of the constitution. My belief is that when they spoke of the right to bear arms, it related to militias or governmental entities whose purpose was to protect the common man. Now you do raise two interesting issues however. First let’s deal with the right of the common man to protect himself. Taking into consideration my opening statement, then if guns didn’t exist, we would be able to put everyone on a more equal footing, not to mention perhaps we would have to come up with more creative and rational ways to settle disputes and arguments. Number two, statistics show that in countries where there is lower gun ownership, there are far fewer homicides.

]]> By: Stormin Norman http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/2009/10/07/guns-in-the-parking-lot-you-gotta-be-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Stormin Norman Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:53:35 +0000 http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/?p=593#comment-173 What about the right of the common man to protect HIMSELF? Forget society, I'm talking about the freedom to protect your home and family. Laws need to be more stringent about who has a gun, but its not the government's place (or right) to disarm its citizens entirely. A government that is trying to do that concerns me greatly. I know it is almost impossible to conceive in modern-day America, but a government is not always perfect and the ability of its citizens to rise up against it in case it goes from democracy to tyranny is something cannot be discounted, even if it appears only a symbolic gesture to allow guns at this point. America has a strong tradition of the common man rising up to fight for what he believes in, as well as to protect himself, his home and his family. Government has no right to restrict that (though it can and should regulate it). What about the right of the common man to protect HIMSELF? Forget society, I’m talking about the freedom to protect your home and family. Laws need to be more stringent about who has a gun, but its not the government’s place (or right) to disarm its citizens entirely. A government that is trying to do that concerns me greatly. I know it is almost impossible to conceive in modern-day America, but a government is not always perfect and the ability of its citizens to rise up against it in case it goes from democracy to tyranny is something cannot be discounted, even if it appears only a symbolic gesture to allow guns at this point.

America has a strong tradition of the common man rising up to fight for what he believes in, as well as to protect himself, his home and his family. Government has no right to restrict that (though it can and should regulate it).

]]> By: Bernie Dyme http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/2009/10/07/guns-in-the-parking-lot-you-gotta-be-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Bernie Dyme Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:21:48 +0000 http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/?p=593#comment-172 You make a good point. There is a question of safety v. freedom and it is a constitutional one but I am not sure that the framers of the constitution created the 2nd amendment with the intent that all could have the right to bear arms. I believe and I readily admit that I have no legal background or training, that the intent had to do with militia and the protection of our country. I realize that the right to bear arms is very touchy and raises great controversey but I still don't see how individual members of society whose responsibilities are not to protect society, should be allowed to carry guns. I realize that this doesn't address the "needs of hunters" but it seems that this would be an easy thing to define so that the use of guns for hunting could have clear parameters. The main thing here is that guns have been used to hurt people and their easy access causes danger for the rest of society. You make a good point. There is a question of safety v. freedom and it is a constitutional one but I am not sure that the framers of the constitution created the 2nd amendment with the intent that all could have the right to bear arms. I believe and I readily admit that I have no legal background or training, that the intent had to do with militia and the protection of our country. I realize that the right to bear arms is very touchy and raises great controversey but I still don’t see how individual members of society whose responsibilities are not to protect society, should be allowed to carry guns. I realize that this doesn’t address the “needs of hunters” but it seems that this would be an easy thing to define so that the use of guns for hunting could have clear parameters.

The main thing here is that guns have been used to hurt people and their easy access causes danger for the rest of society.

]]> By: Stormin Norman http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/2009/10/07/guns-in-the-parking-lot-you-gotta-be-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Stormin Norman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:57:23 +0000 http://blog.perspectivesltd.com/?p=593#comment-166 I can understand the negatives of guns being allowed in parked cars, but there are certain freedoms to consider here. The regulations should be on who can have guns (for instance someone with a record of violence or anger would be prohibited), as opposed to restricting a qualified person from exercising their right to have one in a certain place. There seem to be two bigger picture issues here, safety vs. freedom. I think the best way to secure the first without overly restricting the second is to restrict who can have a gun, not restrict where and when a gun can go. One exception: Alcohol and guns. I'm okay with no guns in bars, that's just crazy. I can understand the negatives of guns being allowed in parked cars, but there are certain freedoms to consider here. The regulations should be on who can have guns (for instance someone with a record of violence or anger would be prohibited), as opposed to restricting a qualified person from exercising their right to have one in a certain place. There seem to be two bigger picture issues here, safety vs. freedom. I think the best way to secure the first without overly restricting the second is to restrict who can have a gun, not restrict where and when a gun can go.

One exception: Alcohol and guns. I’m okay with no guns in bars, that’s just crazy.

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